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Post by Buddyg - Forum Founder on Mar 5, 2014 8:52:53 GMT -5
Ok so I know most us would love to own an original Cobra. I just don't know if I would drive the thing seeing as they are now worth a million dollars! So if you had the funds to own an original would you still want a Superformance Cobra to have so you could enjoy driving one?
I think my answer would be yes I would have both.
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Post by upstateride on Mar 5, 2014 20:51:25 GMT -5
both... maybe.. maybe not. I have another car that I have completely overbuilt and get to worked up to enjoy it with the fear of others... hitting it.. scratching it etc.
But if I had that kind of $ to buy a real original car.. the $ would be better spent on an island.. .with many exotic female servants.............etc.
just sayin..
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Post by sssn8ke on Mar 6, 2014 9:19:31 GMT -5
If I had the funds to buy an original I most certainly would! I would drive it as well. I just can't get me head around "trailer queens" no matter what type of car it is.
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Post by Buddyg - Forum Founder on Mar 6, 2014 10:21:56 GMT -5
???Wonder what the insurance cost would be for an original?
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Post by sssn8ke on Mar 6, 2014 12:29:08 GMT -5
hmmmmmmmmmm good question!
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Post by rcweingart on Mar 6, 2014 12:43:38 GMT -5
I understand that some owners of truly expensive Ferraris (like 250 GTO owners whose cars are worth in excess of $50,000,000) have had exacting replicas made of their cars so they can drive the replicas without fear. It is also interesting to note that a good exacting replica (without going into what constitutes an exact replica) of a 250GTO sells for in excess of $1,000,000! There you have it, a real 427 Cobra for $1,000,000 or a replica 250 GTO for $1,000,000.
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Post by Buddyg - Forum Founder on Mar 6, 2014 12:57:31 GMT -5
Yikes maybe Superformance should start making 250GT replicas!
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Post by RedBarchetta on Mar 8, 2014 18:03:47 GMT -5
Ok so I know most us would love to own an original Cobra. I just don't know if I would drive the thing seeing as they are now worth a million dollars! So if you had the funds to own an original would you still want a Superformance Cobra to have so you could enjoy driving one? If I could afford an original, then I could also afford the insurance on same. So I would drive it as much as possible and sell my Superformance. You're only here once. In fact, I'd probably buy a CSX continuation car if that was affordable, too. The SPF is a very good, well-built replica. Build quality is very consistent and it's a more refined ride than any original. But if you've studied the originals as much as I have, you begin to see little details that Superformance either ignored or did not replicate to exacting authenticity. It's very close and fools 99.9% of Joe Public. But it's not precise and I could write an entire thread on these nuances alone. But those limitations haven't stopped me. Over the past three or so years, I have performed a myriad of modifications to my SPF to more closely mimic a true S/C car. Things like painting the louvers body color, fabbing correct bumper jacks and alum hold-down tubing, completely reconfiguring the dashboard layout, right-parking windshield wipers and a true host of other little details and touches that are too numerous to list here. I have documented most of these at cobraregistry.com, accordingly. -Dean
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Post by Buddyg - Forum Founder on Mar 8, 2014 23:20:38 GMT -5
Dean do you have a link to this thread?
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Post by RedBarchetta on Mar 9, 2014 2:16:43 GMT -5
Dean do you have a link to this thread? There are a few there. One on the dash layout. Another on the fabrication of the quick jacks. I don't think I did one on the painting of the louvers (a PITA on so many levels). "Clayboy" (Bob) and I have had a running contest on who can do the most CSX mods to our cars. I recently fabbed the correct "riveted" headlight trim rings and am working on a few more tricks. Maybe I'll document a few if I get a moment.
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Post by SPF131 on Mar 9, 2014 23:05:40 GMT -5
Besides the obvious collector and historic value, the original Cobras are pieces of crap! They were made for a 200HP straight 6 engine, no wheel tubs, all metal rattle traps! When people ask me if my car is an original, I say "No, it's BETTER than an original! It's actually MADE for the 620HP it has, and without a doubt, it's much safer than the originals too". We have heaters, 5 speeds (most of us), modern braking systems, on and on and on.... If I had the $$$ to buy a real/vintage Cobra, I'd buy a newer model 200+MPH supercar instead! One completely impractical Cobra with the body curves of Rosie Odonnel's ass and the aerodynamic profile of a brick is enough... LoL...
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Post by upstateride on Mar 10, 2014 13:20:07 GMT -5
Duly noted!!
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Post by Buddyg - Forum Founder on Mar 10, 2014 15:53:03 GMT -5
Besides the obvious collector and historic value, the original Cobras are pieces of crap! They were made for a 200HP straight 6 engine, no wheel tubs, all metal rattle traps! When people ask me if my car is an original, I say "No, it's BETTER than an original! It's actually MADE for the 620HP it has, and without a doubt, it's much safer than the originals too". We have heaters, 5 speeds (most of us), modern braking systems, on and on and on.... If I had the $$$ to buy a real/vintage Cobra, I'd buy a newer model 200+MPH supercar instead! One completely impractical Cobra with the body curves of Rosie Odonnel's ass and the aerodynamic profile of a brick is enough... LoL... Good point for $1 million plus a Veyron, Ferrari LaFerrari or Porsche 918 might be a better choice. And of course keep my SPF Cobra!
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Post by gramps on Mar 13, 2014 16:48:01 GMT -5
Wonder what the??? insurance cost would be for an original? Back in 2004, working with Ford racing, I had the opportunity to work on one of the original coupes that was to be on display at their setup in Birmingham during the Dream Cruise. at that time the car was worth better than 3 million and the insurance the owner had to pay per year was 25k. This allowed him 400 miles of drive time. Additional insurance was required for the rides in the trailer. not sure what the cost for that was.
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Post by mudhenk27 on Mar 13, 2014 19:17:46 GMT -5
Like Dean, I caught the originality bug. When I was at Superfest in Colorado, I had the opportunity to see an original 289 roadster up close and personal. I fell in love with the aluminum interior panels, visible frame members, door and lid framing, hinges...all that stuff that many people don't see.
My prototype car COB023 is less accurate than the production cars, so making the kind of mods Dean has done is impractical. Worse, it would destroy a piece of SPF history that should be preserved. So there was only one thing to do...buy another Cobra :-)
I bought a Hi-Tech(the Arizona company, not the South African one)that was just redone by Craig Coombe to a high standard. The Hi-Tech is one of the most accurate replicas made. I love the details.
Not being a rich guy, the deal I had to make with the boss was to put COB023 up for sale. Of course, it could take a long time to find the right buyer for such a unique car :-)
The two red beauties sure look nice in the garage, and the style differences between the SPF roadster and Hi-Tech comp car are a nice contrast.
At the end of the day, they are all good...and we can have fun arguing the merits until spring. Then I'll be out driving...and my buddy Ray will be driving one, too!
Bill
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